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To this point of politics. >> right. dana bash, jessica yellin, thank you both very much indeed. president obama is in full damage control tonight. my next guest knows all about that. lanny davis, the author of crisis tales, five rules for coping with crisis in business and life. he is former special counsel to president clinton and the founder of purple nation solutions and joins me on the grill. couldn't be a more appropriate night to have you roasting on that grill. what a mess the president finds himself in from all fronts this week. let's start with this irs scandal. has the white house h...

Couple of those specifically go to this point of politics. >> right. dana bash, jessica yellin, thank you both very much indeed. president obama is in full damage control tonight. my next guest knows all about that. lanny davis, the author of crisis tales, five rules for coping with crisis in business and life. he is former special counsel to president clinton and the founder of purple nation solutions and joins me on the grill. couldn't be a more appropriate night to have you roasting on that grill. what a mess the president finds himself in from all fronts this week. let's start with this ir...

Substantially, immeasurably that it won't happen again. >> the big barrier that keeps coming up is the nra, and they have been explicit they don't want any universal background checks, they don't want anything. you had a high rating from the nra. an "a" and b-plus in the past. you are making an enemy of the nra now with what you're doing and they will come after you, won't they? >> well, they may, and probably will at some point. here's the good news on that, piers. the country has come together in ways that i don't think we have ever seen in recent history. most of the country understands tha...

What would you say to them when they said, have you done everything you can, have you voted and acted in every possible way to protect me from being killed in the way that i was. the tests are these children. the 6 and 7-year-olds and whether or not we're taking every step possible to protect these children in such a way that this won't happen again, or that we reduce the likelihood, substantially, immeasurably that it won't happen again. >> the big barrier that keeps coming up is the nra, and they have been explicit they don't want any universal background checks, they don't want anything. yo...

Together. that's important. we've got to strive to achieve that. the test here is what if one of those children was staring you in the face right now. what would you say to them when they said, have you done everything you can, have you voted and acted in every possible way to protect me from being killed in the way that i was. the tests are these children. the 6 and 7-year-olds and whether or not we're taking every step possible to protect these children in such a way that this won't happen again, or that we reduce the likelihood, substantially, immeasurably that it won't happen again. >> the...