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Republican senator? hell, no! and the other thing is, i think these senators who are being attacked by their own party, who are being cannibalized by other republicans, they are -- they can't cave. because you see, if you cave now, you might as well just hand in your spine and a couple of other choice body parts to trump and his cronies. >> you know what, anderson, i'm not sure what caving means considering how this was a part of his campaign and every republican that was elected. they wanted to repeal and replace obamacare. obamacare is dead. we have an opportunity to do something about it. a...

To work from. it was solid. it block grants medicaid back to the states and makes certain that pre-existing conditions are covered and we felt as if we had done a good, solid job that put us on the path to patient-centered healthcare and we're ready for the senate to put their mark on it and get it to us. we were willing to stay here this weekend and work through the weekend. >> bill: the whole house? >> yeah, i think you would have seen the whole house say absolutely. let's get this done. to the president's desk. it would have been a great independence day present. >> bill: senator rand paul ...

Meeting? >> reporter: the president summoned all 52 republican senators over here after it became obvious this was not going anywhere. so he brought them all into one room. this was important, republicans believe, because there's so many different factions inside these senate republicans. there are some conservatives, a few moderates. but all had different sets of disagreements here. but the president sat them down, and it was more of a venting session, i'm told, a listening session, i'm told. but this is what he said at the beginning. >> we're getting very close. but for the country, we have ...

Joining me now is kevin mccarthy. good morning, sir. as you're looking across the hill and watching the job senate majority leader mitch mcconnell has, how difficult is it to get everybody on the same page? >> it's not easy. this is not the end. we didn't make the deadline in the house but we worked together and found the ability to come together and move it through. the same thing will happen in the senate. it has to. every day we learn of a new failure of obamacare. just this week we found the 19th co-op out of 23 collapsed. they haven't been able to make it. >> shannon: what happens if they...

Promised repeal. why don't we make the bill look more like a repeal. >> bill: you are pushing for that now and i'm trying to figure out how many are opposed. yesterday six. today we listed nine. maybe as many as 12 republican senators. what is your number? >> at least that. but i think what we need to do is pare back. we're trying to say we're going to do too much. guess what? healthcare was broken before obamacare. it got worse with obamacare. there are so many problems in healthcare. obamacare death spiral is so desperate i don't know that we'll immediately be able to fix it. what we ought t...