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Their voters to try every means possible to get that done. senator mcconnell today bought himself a little more runway to try and get this thing off the ground. >> so let me go to what you have to do, glen, which is some of these people hire you to say, okay, i got to support this bill. i'm not crazy about it. how do you be an -- i mean, i pointed out i think the democrats set themselves up in 2010 because none of them wanted to defend it. it made it easier to attack the bill. sounds like republicans, setting themselves up for the same thing. >> the challenge it neither party can deliver what ...

Program that cuts back on medicaid in order to have tax cut for wealthy people, but we do need to deal with the cost of the individual market and the premiums. one way to do that is to make sure that the cost sharing is a predictable payment to the insurance companies to cover the cost deductibles and co-pays. another thing we can do is improve subsidies for lower income families. democrats and reins cpublicans o that together. democrats and republicans can bring down the cost of prescriptio prescriptions. we could follow a canadian mod e. we could organize the patient as value reimbursement r...

>> there are no substantive debates. we talk about the conversation that happens around the real issues but we don't talk about the issue behind they. it's become reality tv politics. >> nobody is willing to have -- the thing is, when you start having an honest conversation about health care, about you know what, end of life issues, we're spending all this money on end of live issues and all of a sudden everybody runs away. you talk about the substance, it becomes more politically toxic. >> i worked for a long time for ted kennedy and he used to say there's a reason why health care reform hasn...

Democrats point out that the increase is $772 billion less than what medicaid would have had under obamacare. the blue line on the chart is spending under obamacare. the red line is the senate bill. got that? a $772 billion decrease. so big cut. end of debate. so democrats also point out more than 2 million recipients will no longer be eligible for medicaid and that the senate bill neither keeps up with inflation nor with the rising coughs of health care. so who is right? "your salary is $50,000. your boss promises it will be $100,000. did you get a $50,000 raise or a cut? are you going home t...

Massive changes. it not 100% repealed but it's major changes. it's not oh, we got to tinker at the edges, obamacare, turns out it's okay, it's better than anything we've got. he can't say that. >> she's got to say we're cutting mandates, we're increasing jobs, it's a good conservative health care reform bill. >> does this bill become more of a problem for donald trump in 2020 because he's the one that made the promises? >> i think it depends largely on what's done after the health care bill. remember the health care bill is kind of a log jam keeping us from making more progress on things like ...