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>> just seems like we're banging our head against the wall. we know the outcome here and we know what may happen. >> thank you, chuck. >> senator ben cardin, democrat from maryland, thank you very. is it more likely this bill will pass after members go home for the july 4th weekend, after they go home for the weekend and they're home? i'll bring in two republican strategists. glen bulger. the firm is one of our partners on the msnbc poll and john boehner. i'm being pollyannish here in trying to bring both parties together. do republicans have to learn what the democrats learned, that a partisa...

Program. can't do that. >> if you and senator portman think you have the idea on prescription drugs, do you feel as if your leaders would let you put together a bipartisan bill right now because it such a hot political potato? >> i'm glad you chose senator portman because the two of us came together in pension reforms when we were both in the house and both of our leaders toll d not to do it and we got it done. >> why hasn't that happened? i hear all the time from senators who complain to me about the leadership and say we can't do it, we can't do it. it seems to me if enough of you just did i...

The things that we've been talking about for the last seven years. if we don't do that, our base is depressed. and if the base is depressed and angry, they might not turn out in 2018 and that's a huge political risk. >> but what about policy failure? >> i think the policy failure is obamacare. in my home state, there is one individual insure. last year they raised cost by 34% and this year it's 27%. >> and an obamacare supporter would say it because marco rubio got rid of the risk corridors. >> obamacare is failing for the people who need it. >> so the question is what should the republican ad...

Democrats to not hold on so tightly to obamacare. >> okay. there's no doubt. they will always say we'll wait to the next election to decide it. thank you. depressing and fun as always. after the break, how the world views president trump right now.

Fewer mandates, more flexibility for the states that will lower the cost over the long term. universal coverage is not the goal in the united states. lower cost is the overwhelming goal of two-thirds of the american people. but, glen, i go with this, is it going to lower cost? it may lower the premium but then your out of pocket cost goes up. this to me sems like it is not solving the problem that they promised. >> the huge concern with obamacare is higher deductibles, higher premiums and higher taxes on businesses. it's hard to work around those things when you're trying to change this. again...