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He didn't talk candidly about race really all that often, there were a couple moments here and there, but generally speaking, it seemed as though his staff didn't want him talking about it. >> well, it was a very big concern. early in his career, he did talk about race, he was forced to talk about race with jeremiah wright and he did well. once he got into the white house, he got his so hard that he felt himself in a beer summit with a beat cop just trying to escape with the black lash. and he was basically silent for years. blacks beating him up saying he wasn't saying enough, whites beating ...

So there maybe charged but i don't think that is going get much attention or be of any consequence. >> tom fuentes, you're a former beat cop who hob in high-speed chase s. can you take us into the mind of officer brealow? he said he feared for his life but a lot of people wonder if you fear for on your life why do you jump on top of a car and start firing at close range? >> well, in this situation, joe, if you're in fear of not just of your own, but your fellow officers' lives, you know, he may -- by the way, training would tell you that if you shoot at the windshield of a car, the bullet will...

You were a beat cop for several years. tell us why it's important for officers to collectively grieve. >> carol, it's normal for this to happen. i've been in these police funeral processions over the last 40 years. it happens. there's more than 100 police officers a year killed in the line of duty each year. this year and in the past 6 to 12 months it's been especially worrisome for street cops that they're being targeted or if not definitely like the last two new york city police officers killed in december where the individual from a baltimore street gang said he was going to new york to put...

We just saw a police officer killed yesterday. >> but is that really true? in the community i grew up in, i remember policeman paul was the cop on my corner. i knew him, i talked to him, i assumed -- i always -- it was implicit that he was there for my protection. in baltimore, every person i talked to in the neighborhood where violence took place, that's a laughable notion that the police officer is there for -- they don't know policemen paul or if they do, they don't have a great impression of him. >> and that's why i've been a great proponent of having the beat cop come back. i used to be a...

Killed yesterday. >> but is that really true? in the community i grew up in, i remember policeman paul was the cop on my corner. i knew him, i talked to him, i assumed -- i always -- it was implicit that he was there for my protection. in baltimore, every person i talked to in the neighborhood where violence took place, that's a laughable notion that the police officer is there for -- they don't know policemen paul or if they do, they don't have a great impression of him. >> and that's why i've been a great proponent of having the beat cop come back. i used to be a beat cop in new jersey back ...