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He did clerk for the chief justice of the united states supreme court bill rehnquist. and his wife is a partner at goldman sacks. strong couple, very smart people. he understands politics. he raised a lot of money. he's raised twice as much money between him and his pacs as have marco rubio. he's got to beat rubio first before he can make this a one-on-one against trump. >> you have some who will be terrified of ted cruz. more terrified of ted cruz than donald trump who they have been trying to crush for months now. >> he has not been a team player in the senate. he's been a bomb-thrower. they...

Contributor. great to see you, susan, as always. paul singer gave more money than any other donor last year. this guy has a rolodex of rich friends. so for rubio this could mean tens of millions of dollars to boost his campaign. how does that change the contour of rubio's candidacy, and what does it do to bush? >> well, you know, the way i look at it, gregg, rubio's been ascending now for a couple of weeks. i mean, ever since the last debate where he was a strong performer. he's been on the ascendancy. and jeb bush obviously is having great difficulty connect on the campaign trail. his donors ...

Of a guy by the name of barack obama? wasn't jack kennedy disparaged for his youth and his callow senate record? >> yes is the answer. i'm not sure marco rubio is a jack kennedy. remember that line from lloyd bentsen. right? i don't know yet. but certainly his youth and his inexperience, it's hard for a democrat to put too much into that given that we all got in line for obama. on the other hand, you do know when you look at rubio that in a general election, what the clintons will do and the clinton campaign will do is to try to pose rubio as a risk. it's exactly the same as that slide jeb bus...

Republican side certainly for insiders or dynasties or moderation or any of that. and i think the problem jeb faces is that he would be a much better general election candidate but for primaries you need to really connect with voters at a basic level and he's kind of moderate on a lot of issues, which would be good for a general election, not so good for the primaries. so i think he's just got a tough time ahead. and if the singer donation and the singer swerve as you could call it brings other bush donors with him, that will be a major step for rubio. >> you know, in this last debate bush cri...

>> it's the passive aggressive thing, too. everybody in this race except for donald trump is being passive and waiting for somebody to collapse. rubio waiting if that are collapse of bush to come in. ted cruz, waiting for carson. waiting for trump. nobody is making the play to say "i'm the stronger candidate." >> the truth is, there's not room in this game for jeb bush and marco rubio. it will be one or the other, alex, you know that better than anyone coming from florida. and rubio has a lot of the qualities that jeb bush does not show on the campaign trail. he hasn't fired up yet but when yo...