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>> closing these loop holes, he's going to be talking about getting rid of this and putting our fiscal house in order. >> joining me now is the editor/publisher of "the nation" magazine. great to have you with us. >> thank you, ed. >> this is another defining moment where the white house has to stand up. why is social security even on the table for discussion? >> you got me. i mean, you got three pillars of middle class security under siege by paul ryan and his cruel republican budget and now you have a white house which is putting revenue on the table. this is good, talking about raising taxe...

Recall signatures. those signatures are piling up. there will be more recalls filed in coming days and there are now candidates stepping up. jennifer schilling, a terrific state representative, who you may not remember, ed. she actually appeared briefly on your show when you were in wisconsin. has announced she is going to take on dan kapanke and she is a very strong candidate. so far from the enthusiasm going away there is an awful lot of evidence that people are getting into these recall races and saying, you know, look. if we've got to pile up an extra 14,000 votes to ensure victory we'll d...

The up swing right now, ed. i think if you look at where the election was during the primary where prosser was up by 55% and kloppenberg only had 25%, and over that time we fought him to a standstill where before everyone knew who prosser was. he was an 11-year incumbent speaker of the assembly where kloppenberg was a complete unknown. we fought him to a standstill where it was within 1% and may end up winning. >> it should be pointed out that a number of democrats won on the local level as well as far as city elections and county elections. good to have you with us tonight. wisconsin state se...

Bush tax cuts and the president did it. it's things like that that get people thinking he's not going hard enough for the black community. >> and they should if they feel they disagree but at the same time, we've seen members of the caucus as i said vote for a war in afghanistan when only one voted against. and i'm supportive of many of the caucus members that have campaigned for them. as i have president obama. but we can't have different standards, ed. i think the good part of yesterday was having that kind of passionate debate. i've got all kind of e-mails today. people agreeing, people dis...

Up on quite a few of them and are focusing on just three of them right now. those are against senator dave hansen up in green bay, very good guy, comes from a union background, state senator wurch down in kenosha, again, very good salt of the earth guy they're going after and then state senator halpern up in the north woods. they're going after them. i think they're focusing on them just because they don't want to be on defense defending their eight republicans. if they're on defense the entire time they'll lose. >> in the wake of this, where is the enthusiasm? >> it is very interesting, ed. i...