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If that -- hanging occurred with epstein attaching the bed sheet to the bed post and then kneeling down like robert williams did some -- months ago, kneeling down from the doorknob you do not break your bone or your cervical vertebra he hurt himself down. fine. but as they're telling me that they was just kneeling down and he broke the bone and cervical vertebra no way with all due respect they're -- the nyc and medical examiner office, and my colleague who was in server i'm sorry i do not buy that. >> we're also learning that epstein reportedly told his lawyers his cell mate nicholas a westch...

Hanging occurred with epstein attaching the bed sheet to the bed post and then kneeling down like robert williams did some -- months ago, kneeling down from the doorknob you do not break your bone or your cervical vertebra he hurt himself down. fine. but as they're telling me that they was just kneeling down and he broke the bone and cervical vertebra no way with all due respect they're -- the nyc and medical examiner office, and my colleague who was in server i'm sorry i do not buy that. >> we're also learning that epstein reportedly told his lawyers his cell mate nicholas a westchester count...

For his victims who could then file civil cases. >> joining us now jonathan deetdeet dietz, msnbc correspondent following this story from the begin. thank you for being here. it was just 24 hours ago they got the call and found him in the cell and took him to the hospital, where he was pronounced dead. what information are we learning right? >> there are two key questions, one, how did he do it? the information is he used bed sheets perhaps tied to a bed post or tied to a window. and the other question is were the guards doing the rounds as scheduled? they're supposed to be going every 30 minu...

Had since puberty. that involved a bed post. >> this interview is over. >> do you even bother turning on the tv during shark week or do you unplug it? >> i still have to watch greg gutfeld, red eye. i don't watch shark week. >> have you ever considered protesting? >> yeah. i think the discovery channel ought to stick to shows like naked and afraid. it teaches people survival skills and appeals to perverts. >> i say watching it to learn how to survive when i'm doing something awful in the privacy of my own bunker. i hate sharks but not as much as dolphins. people love dolphins because they smil...

>> this is the worst thing he had puberty. it involved the bed post. >> this interview is over. >> do you even bother turning on the tv during shark week? >> i still have to watch greg gutfeld and ghost whisperers. i don't watch shark week. >> have you considered protesting shark week? >> i will take them to more important shows like neighboringd in a parade that teaches survival skills and appeals to perverts. >> you know, i hate sharks, but i don't hate them as much as dolphins. i think the difference -- people love dolphins because they smile. they have a big smile. the dolphins are worse t...