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Course of these last few days, i feel like america's moral conscience has been hit again by this and that people are worked up and upset about this. do you foresee that people are going to be out protesting at these facilities again? i mean, i know you helped lead protests at tornillo when we first learned kids were being taken there. i know that in el paso, there has been marches in support, demonstrations. do you think that's where this is going? >> i do, and i have to tell you, we need to sustain that outrage. we need to sustain that sense of desperation because this is not changing. it's n...

I mean, i know you helped lead protests at tornillo when we first learned kids were being taken there. i know that in el paso, there has been marches in support, demonstrations. do you think that's where this is going? >> i do, and i have to tell you, we need to sustain that outrage. we need to sustain that sense of desperation because this is not changing. it's not getting any better. part of what is happening that's so deeply troubling is that as -- as hhs, the health and human services agency, runs out of bed space, the border patrol is having to hang on to kids longer. and i do want to say...

In the meantime, as apprehension numbers keep growing, so does the stalemate over the crackhouse border bill. it would provide a $4.5 billion to help address the southern border crisis, but the white house is accusing democrats of throwing an provisions that would "make our country less safe." the acting i.c.e. director told our own bret baier that the time for bickering between lawmakers is over. the time for action is right n now. >> at the border patrol facilities are overwhelmed. they are designed for 100 adults. they've got 500 people. they've got kids. those facilities were designed for ...

Toothbrush, tooth paste and soap for days? >> well, i think in cv sprks custo -- cbp custody, for a shorter stay, some of those things may not be required. >> those judges were rightfully flabbergasted. vice president mike pence was asked about the conditions at those facilities. here's how he responded. >> aren't toothbrushes and blankets and medicine, basic conditions for kids, aren't they a part of how the united states of america, the trump administration treats children? >> of course they are jake. >> the lawyer was arguing -- >> i can't speak to what that lawyer was saying. it's one of t...

>> not maybe. are a part. why do you say maybe? you mean there are circumstances when a person doesn't need to have a toothbrush, toothpaste and soap for days? >> well, i think in custody it's frequently intended to be much shorter terms so it may be for a short earl term stay in custody that some of those things may not be required. >> aren't toothbrushes and blankets and medicine, basic conditions for kids aren't they a part of how the united states of america, the trump administration, treats children? >> well, of course they are, jake. >> well, the lawyer was arguing -- >> i can't speak to...