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Analogy that competing with bill gates is like playing hardball. i'd say it's more like a knife fight. >> i've never heard any of these things. you know, you're saying like knife fight. that's silliness. it's childish. i mean, why be a mouthpiece for that kind of silliness? well, i'm done. >> can i just ask you one more question, bill? >> no, i don't think so. >> i remember one time interviewing gates and i said, microsoft owns the world right now. do you worry about that? he said, i worry about it every single night. i go to bed thinking what have i not thought about. >> now it's starting to ...

Belongings to pay for medication when i do have a job. i'm just not able to do that job. >> it's not easy to go to bed thinking where are you going to get money, you know. we're having to ration what cash we have so that we can pay those bills at the end of the month. >> well, now, trump is toying with the idea of declaring a national emergency, to try and bypass congress and get the border wall money anyway, an idea so extreme, even members of his own party are pushing back. joining me now, dean, from siriusxm and business and marketing consulting and mat welsh, thank you for being here. i wi...

This is going to be interesting and welcome back to "hardball." it's the second longest government shutdown ever in this country and come saturday if negotiations remain at an impasse it will remain the longest. tomorrow will be the first pay day that 800,000 federal employees will not get their paychecks. >> i just bought a brand new car and it's really frustrating. i don't know how i'm going to survive. >> i'm 45 years old and i shouldn't have to pawn my belongings to pay for medication when i do have a job. i'm just not aubl to do that job. >> it's not easy to go to bed thinking where are y...

Analogy that competing with bill gates is like playing hard ball. i'd say it's more like a knife fight. >> i've never heard any of these things. you know, you're saying like knife fight. that's silliness. it's childish. i mean, why be a mouthpiece for that kind of silliness? i'm done. >> can i just ask you one more question, bill? >> no, i don't think so. >> i remember one time interviewing gates and i said, microsoft owns the world right now. do you worry about that? he said, i worry about it every single night. i go to bed thinking what have i not thought about. >> now it's starting to dial....

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