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Once. i think they can win it twice. they just have to get everybody in the right seats. >> for the david blough fans out there, which there is many, just gonna mark that, a total door slam of you helping them, but maybe not in a formal role at this moment. so you are still a pundit out there on the outside and you just outlined a lot of what they are doing. you are right, a lot of things has changed since you were traveling on the plane and i was traveling on the plane back in 2012 when president obama was running for reelection. there have been some of these concerns expressed about the lack...

There have been some of these concerns expressed about the lack of senior decision-makers in delaware and that lack of urgency around setting up national structures around that campaign. there is tons of time to go here, for anybody who is bed-wetting. but do you share those concerns? you said you are confident how they're going. but would you like to be faster? would you like there to be more decision-makers, or different means of communicating on the campaign? >> well, you know, my sense, and obviously, i'm not in these rooms every day, right? but my sense is you see the schedules picking up...

About a third-party candidate. everybody whining about everything, because this is what the democrats do. >> well -- >> and the obama administration when their campaign talked about bed-wetting. excessive bed-wetting going on there and we showed a poll yesterday showing tnt losing by five points to joe biden, 49-44%. another came out, media showed joe biden crushing donald trump even with a third-party candidate. >> interesting part. despite having concerns, new polling shows most americans are not open to voting for a third-party ticket in 2024. in the latest monmouth university survey just 3...

To actually -- >> by the way, john heilemann also texting me. >> what did he say? lazy? >> he says that, of course, also just talking about the poll. disturbs him there's a poll that actually shows thing, going well for joe biden. >> also a message from debbie dingell for you when we have a moment, about that. >> oh, oh, boy! >> so -- no, no, no. so does debbie think that biden's going to lose michigan because if she does, i mean, i will bet her, like, a couple of detroit tiger baseball tickets against red sox tickets that biden's going to win michigan if he goes up against trump. >> so i thin...

Go to trump again. of milwaukee, never go for trump again. especially post-roe, and i hope the power of positive thinking did not trigger jen or any other democrats out there, but, look. it's okay to be happy. it's okay to smile. it's okay -- >> no, it's not. >> it's okay to be positive, sam. >> no, it's not. >> oh, oh. >> hell no. >> first of all let me agree with jen. bed wetting is a crude disgusting term and should be banished from the airwaves. never mention it again. secondly, jen did make, you know, i think, a very valid if not cup half empty case for democrats heading into 2024. it is ...