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Said, we have to treat these people differently when they turn out to be mentally ill. clearly in this case, he was. we need to put them in a whole different category, treat them much more simple threatically, people are going to hate me for saying that. >> this gets to bedrock stuff about where we draw the line between an affirmative defense without being not guilty because of mental illness, when we see someone like lanza or the boys of columbine, but you're saying that different than -- >> i have spent so much time with a psychologist talking about these kind of people. i'll tell you one ki...

We need to put them in a whole different category, treat them much more simple threatically, people are going to hate me for saying that. >> this gets to bedrock stuff about where we draw the line between an affirmative defense without being not guilty because of mental illness, when we see someone like lanza or the boys of columbine, but you're saying that different than -- >> i have spent so much time with a psychologist talking about these kind of people. i'll tell you one kind of way, we don't know if this was in this case. where it's not necessarily that they don't understand what they're...