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Focussing on trump. i can't imagine they will all focus on trump because that basically would be a greek core ro chorus of democrats going after trump and none of them if that's happens, they won't have stated their actual and against. >> i do think trump is the baseline and draw their own contrast amongst themselves. some of them will be subtle references to both bernie's age and joe biden's age. some of them will be talking about the difference between new ideas and old ideas. but i never thought i would disagree with jen but the one thing i do disagree with is that most of the great moments...

About the difference between new ideas and old ideas. but i never thought i would disagree with jen but the one thing i do disagree with is that most of the great moments in these debates were practiced before the debates. the where is the beef line that ronald reagan, i won't let your -- my youthful inexperience of my opponent, all of those. they are all practicing one liners, the question of executing though is really getting it at the right time with the right emphasis behind it. they have all got them. we have to wait and see which works. >> that's totally fair. >> there is nothing worse t...

Debate situation. back your guy walter mondale in '84 talking about gary heart he said where's the -- gary hart he said where is the beef line. i was a teenager and i remember to this day. isn't there a opportunity for governor romney perhaps if he were to go out there and really score some points? >> perhaps. i have to tell you the where's the beef was scripted. i remember lloyd bentsen and i was sitting there with i knew jack kennedy, i knew that was coming. the danger for romney is he does come across as scripted. when he goes off-the-cuff, he makes mistakes. if he is standing between santo...