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"sliding doors." it transformed into a political crisis to a cultural moment. i wonder if you think the depiction of brett kavanaugh as this shouting, angry, beer drinking guy, his image was so transformed in that moment that the caricature of him became the reality of him. if that's a greater political liability today -- >> i think it is. >> -- than the allegations. >> why that's important, if he does make it to the bench, that then becomes the caricature of his tenure on the bench. you're the no going to get past news articles, you're not going to get past video images comparing that "saturd...

Testimony last week and say it looks like he lied about a wide variety of things under oath in front of this committee. so is the fbi now allowed to investigate -- >> hey, john, can i list o some of those things? >> certainly. >> you just said he committed perjury. list them. >> there are many people hong that he lied -- you mentioned a large number -- you said there were small things. certainly the question of his -- the question of his drinking, for instance. he has made many assertions that there are witnesses now including his roommates at yale and other places who have said that he was, i...