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Give up in order to create the false illusion of security. to live in a fro society, risks are involved. the risks are worth to to have what we have. >> steve, if i am buying a service and i don't want them to share the service with the government should i be able to sue them if they do it against my will? >> companies for a impossible position. if they help out the government they are snooping on privacy. if they don't help out the government they are helping terrorist. the focus should be on the government and l abuses, don't bring in companies that are doing the best and caught in an imposs...

From lawsuits. how do you define that information. the nsa can store that information five years that you think might be important. india and the middle east and asia and countries putting the onus on gooble and facebook to give over information. how will you stop that if you stop lawsuits from stopping the practices. >> rick, none of us like the collusion between the government and private sector, isn't suing and giving the customers the right to sue one of the only ways out? >> maybe, but there is something everybody is missing here, it is not just the companies deciding to go along with the...

Position. before we are in a bad position in the society. >> rich, what do you think? >> well, look, i would remind my good friend john and sabrina who a are, terrorism is real. we did this and the telecoms got immuneitty in the bush administration. this is not new and it is needed. companies are put in a impossible position. nemac, isn't it time to rethink this? >> yes. >> now we know the extent? >> i agree with scombraup here's why. the government stinks because you can't sue the government. but the way the government is writing the law, there is a bill before the senate that if a company pa...