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And we need to end this zero tolerance policy or zero humanity policy it might be better known. we can be better than this as a country and today i'm so inspired to see all the people who will come out to make this happen. >> a lot of people are watching and thinking we need to secure our borders. can you just give smus claus so clarity here. this is more a protest for human rights, for humanity than it is political. would that be safe to say to some degree? >> i think if you asked someone on the street, is it a political question whether we should tear babies out of their mother's arms? they'...