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He believes in something the opposite. he believes in the market. i'll tell you, you see that throughout the trump administration. you and i have been critical of this president for a lot of reasons, rightly so -- >> this ain't one of them. the idea that he was mentioned about leveraging off government, that's not an awful idea. >> it's called private equity and what they do in markets every day. outside interests don't mind helping out when it's being le rev -- leveraged -- if donald trump can get on track with the way he runs the government, this is going to be a very successful administrati...