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And i want to ask mary that too. >> i have a basic distrust of the government, i think a healthy skepticism of our government is part of the american way, and yes, i'm particularly mistrustful of this administration for the reasons that mary gave. on the other hand, we have, as dan says, no evidence that the nsa has been corrupted in the way the irs was. >> mary, the specific abuses at the irs bother me a lot more than this. because you actually there have cases where the government did specifically attempt to punish individuals for their political beliefs, in this case, nsa. we don't have any...