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It's weird, because we are then suggesting that there's something harmless about this guy. which is not the case. i mean, he is -- he is threatening. and in an extreme way we have never seen before. luckily, the founding fathers anticipated this guy. and they have set up structures that make it very difficult for a threatening character like this to carry out his threats. >> well, lawrence o'donnell, thank you very much. i think you've brought a lot of people's blood pressure down today. >> it's my job. >> it's what you do. and after the break, who a president donald trump would target for his...