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And a few hours later, you said i'm getting a bit of a spanking tonight and i take it that means you had a torrid time on social media because of saying that. five years ago, i may have learned. what have you learned? at that time, i think i'm very supportive of refugee issues. and that was a big thing for me and ijust do find it very hard to understand how we can't have a degree of empathy for people's positions when they have to flee the country for war, for conflict, for possibly climate change in the future, who knows? for all sorts of different reasons that we can be so... i suppose awful...

I may have learned. what have you learned? at that time, i think i'm very supportive of refugee issues. and that was a big thing for me and ijust do find it very hard to understand how we can't have a degree of empathy for people's positions when they have to flee the country for war, for conflict, for possibly climate change in the future, who knows? for all sorts of different reasons that we can be so... i suppose awful in our treatment of the way we view that. we don't want them here, and ijust found that, you can think of belief led me that day, but it annoyed me but i don't usually tweet ...

Of the way we view that. we don't want them here, and ijust found that, you can think of belief led me that day, but it annoyed me but i don't usually tweet as aggressively as that. and i don't think i do now, and probably would have rephrased it slightly. but you do tweet about issues on which there are passionate divisions, don't you? and you know when you press send on the tweet that there is going to be pushback and there could be some furore around that. do you find that stressful? not really. i don't find it stressful at all. i don't tweet anything i don't really believe in. and i... you...

And ijust found that, you can think of belief led me that day, but it annoyed me but i don't usually tweet as aggressively as that. and i don't think i do now, and probably would have rephrased it slightly. but you do tweet about issues on which there are passionate divisions, don't you? and you know when you press send on the tweet that there is going to be pushback and there could be some furore around that. do you find that stressful? not really. i don't find it stressful at all. i don't tweet anything i don't really believe in. and i... you see people with platforms take years off and say ...