Fight, then they stop, get in the cars and drive away. that is sort of the situation here. are we going to go up to the edge, bump bell lease and then stop and drive away, or are we -- is this going to cross over into a fight. jenna: we have new leaders as well, we have chuck hagel as the new defense secretary, a new secretary of state in john kerry. what do you think the top priority should be for both of them, and how they approach north korea since you spent some time there, jim? >> yeah i want to say, jenna you're right to put your finger on that. we also have new leadership in north korea...