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Their response. this second video is coming to light, again, today in the light of a new article by harry segel. it's the second eric garner video that made me cry. he writes the author of that video harry segel joins me now along with mark clackstone, director. harry, you write that garner was treated like a piece of meat. very moving piece. but what specifically should those responders have done that they did not do? >> well, you have this man who said, i can't breathe. who's on the ground. unresponsive. the police were there. they're holding him more or less to keep him in a position and at...

>> so did you finish the video game and both come upstairs together? >> that night i wasn't able to walk, so he would carry me to the elevator. >> ann says they followed their nightly routine. john turned out the lights, and they got into bed. ann says she began to doze off. >> i was lying on my belly face down. my head facing towards him. and i opened my eyes because i heard him talking. >> so what was he saying? >> he referred to my suicide attempts where i had been in bed next to him, and he said something to the effect of knowing how it feels to wake up with your spouse dead. >> though it ...