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Recently is ben gauzy. there's history with watergate. do you think they're going to regret the way they conducted themselves here? >> i think they might. let's take a step back and think about why is this even controversial? everyone acknowledged that we were going to obviously do a deep investigation because both parties had a vested interest in finding out the truth. this -- it was not obvious that this was going to become a partisan food fight. and think about how easy it would have been had mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy said of course we're going to do it. we're going along with an i...

Eight-page letter say they go believe it's constitutionally invalid, that it violates precedent and the president's due process rights in saying, no, we are not going to be cooperating with any of your requests. now, they say they're not going to be cooperating, the question is what will they do if, if democrats take that forward and make this a form's impeachment inquiry in the white house's eyes? less they have to change their game plan? they're waiting to see what democrat doss in response. they're gearing up for impeachment behind the scene, the president recruiting someone to be outside c...

>> jesse: it was three. and what about ben gauzy and the used to say, who is mr. ben gauzy? >> greg: she was a pasi, and they had to cover up for the fact there was a terrorist attack after campaign on defeating al qaeda and the truth was, the administration didn't protect the ambassador on the anniversary of 9/11 in a country they had just toppled after a year of security request. so they blamed a video guy, actually we still don't know what really happened because did they fight some subpoenas? i think they bought a few subpoenas back then. >> juan: it is incredible and imagine i don't think...

What stood out? >> not a man who fits the profile are somebody you would expect to be appointed the attorney general of the united states, even in an acting capacity, bu he's essentially a politician. he was a right-wing political commentator. dabbled in fringe theories about ben gauzy and about the clintons, and -- look, to the central question, he has made public conclusions about every question that is under investigation in this mueller investigation he is now having to supervise. he said that the russians didn't interfere in the 2016 election. that's not true, obviously. that goes against...

The ap, something the ap called a massive, unprecedented intrusion. 2014, the administration ridiculed over excessive weight times at v.a. hospitals that led to the death of dozens of veterans. the months long scandal surrounding the prisoner swap, bo bergdaal, and then ben gauzy, that scandal where four americans died. but what difference does it make, right, hillary? >> and what about the fast and furious scandal, they put guns in the hands of violent mexican gangs and of course, people died. we actually interviewed family members. also, the time the ir s, oh, yeah, they apologized recently ...