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We never had the conversation you do this, i'll do that. we both just do it. >> but for men in particular, i think it's also a professional struggle. it is not as easy if you're a man i think to go into your boss and say i want to work part-time and stay on this career track. >> or i have to leave at 6:30 because i have to have ab a concert. my point now that i'm not working full-time crazy i can do that. when i was building my agency, i couldn't do that so is there a challenge for men, no question about it. >> can we play that again? >> just the natural order. >> we are going to go to break. ...

If you go over, you win. if the dealer goes over, they lose. it's the most popular card game in the world. >> it's a game of memory. cards drawn of the past. once become the future. >> the best part, it's beatable. >> are you talking about counting cards? >> no. i'm talking about getting very, very rich. >> that was the scene from the 2008 film "21." adapted from ben messrick's book "bringing down the house." ben joins us now. out with his latest book high risks and high rewards. the true story of six college friends who dealt their way to a billion dollar online poker empire and how it all ca...