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I don't think we're doing that just yet. what with need is a single-payer system. >> larry: as henny youngman once said when asked, what do you think of the tax bill? he said, pay it. ben, thank you as always, mark. ben stein and mark lamont hill. we're breezing along. now we're going mountain climbing with actors jessica biel and emile hersch, next. >> i said to one of the guys, can we go a little faster? and then i got a little bit irritated and i was like going down this little area kind of pissed off and then i immediately got nauseous, and the mountain was like pull away, pull away, and d...

We've seen joe wilson be a darling and go from being a third stringer to being on the front of every newspaper for a few weeks. this is what happens in the political season. right now republicans are about obstructing progress. they'll do anything to make that happen. >> larry: is this damaging, ben, to democrats? >> i think it's damaging to everyone. a guest on your show that you've had a number of times, the very famous author linda fairstein who has a fabulous book out, "the hell gate, she says -- she was a sex crimes prosecutors for many years and she does a great job and she says the grea...

Going to use the success or failure of health care of as a baton to beat over the heads of the democrats for the next two years. >> you said -- we're all humans. >> larry: don't we need health care reform. >> larry, i've said, since you were a child, larry, i've been saying we should have health care for all americans, but i don't like the idea of screwing up the whole system. i'm an old guy now. i get medicare. i don't like the idea of taking $500 billion out of seniors' medical care and giving it to other people. i would like to see some system whereby just the poor, the very poor, are given...

It's also unbearable if he really was harassing people and he's making all this up to make it seem like a political thing. the whole thing is just extremely sad. >> mark hill, what's your read? >> i agree with ben that this is extremely sad. i think it's a little bit funny that he's suddenly becoming a hero, suddenly everyone is sympathetic to his polite. this is someone who appears to have made some wrong moves using politics for his legacy. it also speaks to the problems the democrat party has on the left. we continue to have firing squads in the circle. instead of aiming our attention at th...

In washington or any city who is completely honest, please call me. when you find someone, mark, in los angeles or new york or washington, d.c., who is completely honest, please let me know. >> so, then, we're in agreement. >> larry: help me with something, ben, and then you, mark. isn't the chief of staff supposed to be tough? >> he's supposed to be tough, but he's not supposed to be -- he's not supposed to be -- if he's tough, if he says to him, you're a team player, get your butt on board with us or there are going to be consequences, that's fine. he should be doing that. if he's saying to ...