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My age except for the non-elderly. >> ben: the white house and so many of the administration's allies are making the case across the country that this these type of break through experiences are justification for restoring all manner of mandates that we saw last year, in some places new requirements. what is your take and what response would you have to the politicians who are making the justification for that. >> implementing mandates in some cases implementing mandates stricter than we had last summer when the pandemic was out of control and we didn't have the vaccines yet. d.c. has reimpose...

I hope there is more opposition to it you know what it reminds me of is post 9/11 security theater measures that endure to this day still take off shoes and belts to get on a plane. no one believes, that's true, that doesn't enhance security whatsoever. study after study tsa misses weapons. it's not doing anything. it's still in place. we all go through it because no one has changed it it's the policy is just there forever. our pandemic restrictions could be like that, too. >> ben: it absolutely could be the case. robby, thank you so much for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> ben: coming up...

America has hit an all-new high. nih director francis collins now wants parents to mask up in front of their own kids inside their own homes. >> so, yeah, you do need think about it and that's the reason why the recommendations are for kids under 12, that they avoid being in places where they might get infected which means recommendations of mask-wearing in schools and that at home, parents of unvaccinated kids should be thoughtful about this and the recommendation is to wear masks there as well. >> let me follow up on that. >> i know it's uncomfortable and i know it seems weird but it is the ...

Liizing this man for covid handling. and of course, right now, the sexual allegations that's what's taking him down. personally he should have been canceled for nipple gate alone. >> ben: dana, i know you have experienced, gone through many times the ridiculousness of being covered by cnn network that has a very odd approach to the kind of uberous that they have when it comes to their journalistic endeavors. this, to me, was really revel la tore of how much that network and chris cuomo's presence on it led them to look in the other direction. what are your thoughts today about both andrew cuom...