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>> we're changing public opinion, and when public opinion is in support of removal, i'm confident that the impeachment will go forward. >> while backing away from impeachment might be the best political decision for democrats right now, our big question is, will backing away from impeachment prove to be the right decision in the long run? joining me, "washington post" white house bureau chief and msnbc political analyst phil rucker. politico senior writer, jake sherman. daly beast politics reporter and msnbc contributor, betsy woodruff. and law fair editor in chief, brookings senior fellow ben...

Conservatism. >> but you think bipartisan, ben, can mean just one republican? the bar is really that low? >> well, i mean, it's meant to sound like it should be a wave of bipartisanship. as betsy said, that's not going to happen. but the question -- i was sort of joking about one republican, but the question is how few could you have and still claim that it was a bipartisan action? i don't think the answer is one or two, but look, 13 or so -- i forget how many voted to -- voted with the democrats on the national emergency legislation, and so i don't think it's impossible to imagine that if the...

Basically all of them lost in 2018 because they were the moderates who lost in districts that were toss-ups. now they've all been, for the most part, replaced by democrats. the notion that republicans are going to get on board with this in any substantive way just sort of defies belief. >> why not wait for the mueller report? >> that's another good question. one of the challenges for democrats that's front of mind is if they put off impeachment or initiating impeachment proceedings for several more months, that it's going to be this nightmare split screen. every 2020 candidate will be asked ab...

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