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Last year. so basically, the pie has gotten bigger. >> ben, a fantastic piece, relax america. i really appreciate you coming by. thanks so much. >> thanks for having me. none of this changes, of course, we have to prepare our kids for college. over the next few weeks, high school seniors will make their final decisions where they will be spending the next four years of their lives and then comes the scramble to pay for it all. if you're taking out a bunch of loans, you to be smart about it. first, gone are the days of the five-year plan. tuition is up more than 400% since 1982. i'm not kiddi...

Before we trash the american education system, my next guest says not so fast. in this month's foreign policy magazine, ben writes, relax, america. chinese math whizzes and india engineers aren't stealing your kids' future. he joins us now. ben, in your piece, you show the "life" magazine cover from 1958, comparing a slacker american student with an overachieving russian student. we've been looking over our shoulder for an awful long time to the rest of the world, haven't we? >> you've had this sputnik moment since sputnik. >> not fair to compare the u.s. with finland or belgium. the u.s. educ...