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Talk to the rest of america, all of the people that we want to get into the american benefit structure and share all the problems that america has with more people and not have everything on the back of working class people? >> now, speaking of that autopsy, ryan, the man behind it, rnc chair reince priebus, he says that mike huckabee should be the model on social issues. "i always tell people, listen to governor mike huckabee. i don't know anyone that talks about them any better," talking about social issues. well, huckabee's the model? let's listen to some of the things this model republican...

Rates. my guess is that in the process of trying to hammer out this deal it gets raised to somewhere around 400, maybe $500,000. i think they'll get angry at that. that will be offset by satisfaction that some of the entitlement reforms that the president had signed off earlier such as exchanging the benefit structure for social security, that will likely not be in this deal. but those two things will offset it. estate tax, that's a big sticking point. the senate republicans will insist it sticks at its current rate. >> thank you. we'll be back in a moment. this is "hard ball," the place for p...

Around 400, maybe 500,000 tlars. such as changing the benefit structure for social security. that likely will not be in this deal. obviously, everything remains to be seen. but those two things will offset the estate tax, as i understand it, is a big sticking point. obama wants to see it go up. the senate republicans will insist that it stays at its kurnt rate. this is what happens when you make deals with very little time to spare. you basically force your respective party forces to swal slow what you give him. >> thank you. we'll be back in a moment. this is "hardball" the place for politics...

People are going to look to this experience as how john boehner may or may not be able to drive this discussion. >> on this deal, things get thrown on to the table and then the base finds out and they get upset. what is a president's base going to get upset about. >> if likely thing will probably be tax rebates. my guess is that in the process of trying to hem up this deal, it gets raised somewhere to around 400, maybe 500,000. such as changing the benefit structure for social security. that likely will not be in this deal. obviously, everything remains to be seen. but those two things will of...

They can attack 37. >> sam, is the obama white house this good? is this divide and conquer? >> well, first of all, no, they're not that good. and, you know, it's ironic because had boehner taken that last offer that obama gave him, one that would have changed the benefit structure for social security, it would have ended up fracturing the democratic base in some respects. a lot of progressives were upset the white house was even going there. they thought he didn't need to make that concession. a lot of this is the house republicans' own fault they're in in corner. they could have taken a deal,...