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>> so why did you sign on with hem? >> i believed. i still do. >> i was -- you know, it was a huge bet. there was just something in what he had been saying that resonated with me from the first time i heard him speech and the tonight to work for him and help craft the message was something i knew i could never turn down. >> the stuff we were dreaming about in a bar in 2007, we've been able to watch it made real. he takes it personally when things get held up, when things fail. he knows it has direct consequences for people but to see him playing with ben's kid, you know, a photo went viral, he...

Has spent much of his life as an opponent of civil rights, whether that's voting rights or things like consent decrease which help mitigate police brutality. i think the difference, though, you're going to have that activism on the street. when john lewis was out there marching and when reverend al sharpton was a little kid coming up under king, at that time they could look to the federal government as kind of the last line of defense. >> are you surprised congressman lewis said, you know what, i don't see this president as legitimate. >> right now he's this wonderful, kind ly figure. he is a ...