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>> let's play how the president's comments about paul manafort have let's say migrated over time. >> now, paul manafort is a nice guy, but he worked for me for a short period of time, literally a couple months? a little period of time >> like manafort has nothing to do with our campaign. but i feel -- i tell you, i feel badly about it. they went back 12 years to get things that he did 12 years ago. you know, paul manafort worked for me for a very short period of time. >> he was chairman of the campaign, ber ritberger, lived in trump tower, offered to work for free, former partner of

Legal counsel, members of congress, and members of the executive branch of the united states government. well, with us to talk about it, chris mcguerrin, reporter for the "l.a. times" who covers the special counsel investigation and we have prevailed upon veteran federal prosecutor ber ritberger to stick around with us for just a few more minutes. counselor, i would like to begin with you. what should our takeaway be from this document, not counting the black lines of redaction, 800 pages in all, give or take? >> the special counsel's office wasn't holding anything back in this sentencing memo...

Bold and, quote, his deceit, which is a fundamental component of the crimes of conviction and relevant conduct extended to tax preparers, bookkeepers, banks, treasury, department of justice, national security division, the fbi, the special counsel's office, the grand jury, his own legal counsel, members of congress, and members of the executive branch of the united states government. well, with us to talk about it, chris mcguerrin, reporter for the "l.a. times" who covers the special counsel investigation and we have prevailed upon veteran federal prosecutor ber ritberger to stick around with ...

>> he was chairman of the campaign, ber ritberger, lived in trump tower, offered to work for free, former partner of roger stone. do you hear could you make a case that you hear there the sadness, the sympathy, the un r underpinings for a polish pardon. >> that's one argument you could see the manafort team making in this letter. one argument is perhaps this letter wasn't actually for the court. perhaps this letter was painting narrative, making the case for a pardon. obviously that's in the president's discretion. he has the right to pardon paul manafort if he thinks that truly was treated un...