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Week since he pretty clearly said that he did not go seeking a pardon. so that's the first thing that's wrong with it. more to the substantive point of, you know, there is not necessarily anything wrong with raising a discussion about the potential of a pardon down the road. however, it does, you know, raise a lot of red flags about what is the quid pro quo that one would have to do to get this pardon? that's kind of the question it would raise to me. >> right. i hear you on that, berit. ross, i think the more pressing question would be if they went to him, right? i mean, if the reporting had ...

>> i think the first thing that's wrong with that is it certainly calls into question the accuracy of cohen's testimony before congress last week since he pretty clearly said that he did not go seeking a pardon. so that's the first thing that's wrong with it. more to the substantive point of, you know, there is not necessarily anything wrong with raising a discussion about the potential of a pardon down the road. however, it does, you know, raise a lot of red flags about what is the quid pro quo that one would have to do to get this pardon. that's kind of the question it would raise to me. >> ...