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I will go to mack and ernie first, we got the plane which apparently this jet has very few, if any, problems, that are notable that literally disappears off the radar. what do you think happened? >> well, it had to be catastrophic, judge, because as i'm talking to you right now. the pilot and co-pilot could have put out a mayday call in the blind on guard channel, but we have no evidence that that happened. so it means it was instantaneously catastrophic. the only thing i can think that that could be would be a bomb. now, it's speculation. i am the first to tell you that. it's extremely import...

I will go to mack and ernie first, we got the plane which apparently this jet has very few, if any, problems, that are notable that literally disappears off the radar. what do you think happened? >> well, it had to be catastrophic, judge, because as i'm talking to you right now. the pilot and co-pilot could have put out a mayday call in the blind on guard channel, but we have no evidence that that happened. so it means it was instantaneously catastrophic. the only thing i can think that that could be would be a bomb. now, it's speculation. i am the first to tell you that. it's extremely import...

What are you going to do. >> i think they will try to bring him back because without him there is no show. make a lot of money and get even bigger ratings. everybody has heard of "duck dynasty" now. a&e should not be surprised to learn that this guy who they hired as a bible toting, praying, big mouth outdoors man is shooting off his mouth. >> of course they shouldn't be surprised. both of you would have suspended him had he not apologized. so we are on the record there final question for both of you, bernie first. is it unreasonable, all right? for the american public to be angry about this? ...

This question. you're in charge of a&e, bernie. you suspend the man? >> by -- let me. >> you take the man off the air which is what they did. you take him off the air? >> you want a direct answer. i would have probably taken him off the air for a while because i think what he said was reprehensible. >> all right. so your personal view would have trumped, is that what is good for a&e? is that what is good for the stockholders? >> no. hold on. i said for a while. i didn't say for all time. >> they may walk. if i was the robertson family i would walk. >> no. here is what is going to happen. the g...

And a&e starts playing gate keeper because of an interview he gives to gq about his religion. you know, missing in all of this is this guy was talking about his religious beliefs and his perspective. some may mock it. i heard bernie, you know, giving him grief on this thing. he has got a right to do that it is a constitutional right. >> he has a right to suspend him as everybody knows. >> by the way, that makes him among the dumbest business people in media. >> i wouldn't challenge his theology. i think everybody needs to think about that. >> but you know what else they need to think about, al...