MSNBC MSNBC Live With Ali Velshi December 24, 2019 20:23:00
In somalia, places like that, when you see the growth of non-state actors like al-shabaab or boka haram, they again existed places where the government does not assert itself very well. then you have a third situation which we were just talking about with bill neely and steven cook in syria, where america pulling troops back because some argued they weren't being all that effective creates an opportunity for iran and russia so at some point there is a cost to this? >> that's right. and this is going to be very i think controversial beth inside the u.s. government and beyond once it spills out ...