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Things that come out of that man's mouth. is there a logic to it, chuck, or is he just talking? >> he's just talking, katy. i think that's as usual as being kind and thoughtful. it is also entirely possible that he's plain wrong, he gets his law wrong and facts wrong. the credible evidence that we have is that, that really comes from betsy reporting and michael cohen's plea agreement which he acknowledged of the conversation of building the moscow project extended through the middle of 2016 and not through the end of 2016. does it matter? yeah, it matters. as election day gets closer, the pres...

People have seen them. there is no evidence that anybody committed obstruction of justice. we know it is something that is on radar's muller had a comparatively short conversation with coralo. he was in there for two and a half hours, it is not expected that he will go back for a interview. 20 hours of enterses with this conversation. >> kevin? >> look, i think that betsy reporting is all-star on this. that illustration, and that c converthat she instructed anyone to destroy e-mails. that is not what is out there right now. >> one of the things we have to talk about, it is donald trump