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The truth of the matter is -- let's use the president that we have now as an example. in every way wants to do the right thing. kind. considerate. compassionate. the guy i would want in charge and he's having a very, very hard time. why would anyone want to be in any of those positions? i applaud anyone that goes into public service. >> i would throw that straight back at you. there's george clooney. handsome. smart. well educated. great father. better looking obviously. you have all of the same kind of -- >> do you think he's better looking than i am? >> you're better looking than he is. you'...

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Republican king maker makes perfect sense. >> yeah. look, gene, he's not a wealthy white christian. he's a wealthy white mormon. the polls show his downward trajectory, do you think his religion is going to come into play here? is it the fact he was so associated with health care, the likes of which obama adopted, that will send him to his political grave? >> i think both are true. i think the reason we're seeing him kind of slide in the polls -- actually, you know, he's at his 23%. that's where he has been this entire cycle. it's just that most of the party would like to find another candidat...

It's in that alternate universe where they're living that donald trump as elder statesman and republican king maker makes perfect sense. >> yeah. look, gene, he's not a wealthy white christian. he's a wealthy white mormon. the polls show his downward trajectory, do you think his religion is going to come into play here? is it the fact he was so associated with health care, the likes of which obama adopted, that will send him to his political grave? >> i think both are true. i think the reason we're seeing him kind of slide in the polls -- actually, you know, he's at his 23%. that's where he ha...