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Nixon, i actually think it's unfair to richard nixon. and the reason i say that is because richard nixon had some degree of seriousness about policy. he even signed bills to go to neera's point of working with democrats, signed a lot of bills that democrats put on the desk like to create the epa. with donald trump, there is nothing like that. there is no seriousness about the job or about policy. he's gone on both sides of daca within a few days. some days he wants to expand health care beyond obamacare. other days he doesn't care as long as obamacare is repealed. and so, i think he's somebody...

Objection, ari, as a reason, they offered a separate rule today that said the boss gets to basically lob a moral objection that would allow the boss to deny care to women or to other employees. that's just wrong. and that's what's really scary. the idea that somebody, an employer, could make a moral objection that would deny women access to needed health care really opens up to a scary degree any number of options and again, it's why i sought to file directly in court this afternoon and to seek an immediate order to stop this rule from going forward. as i say, president trump is showing to be ...

Neera's point of working with democrats, signed a lot of bills that democrats put on the desk like to create the epa. with donald trump, there is nothing like that. there is no seriousness about the job or about policy. he's gone on both sides of da kra within a few days. some days he wants to expand health care beyond obamacare. other days he doesn't care as long as obamacare is repealed. and so, i think he's somebody who even it's said he has this solid base. but nobody out there really knows if he stands for anything. so he may be able to fall even lower than richard nixon did who after all...

Because it's unconstitutional. it violates the constitution in any number of ways and needs to be stopped. >> briefly, what are one or two of those ways? >> well, the first thing it does is a violation of equal protection clause. you have a situation where the administration has offered a rule that discriminates against women. it only affects women. therefore, it violates equal protection. ari, you are a lawyer. you understand the establishment clause. here we have a situation where it's the boss getting to impose his religious beliefs on his workers. a women and her family. that's wrong. >> l...

Protection. ari, you are a lawyer. you understand the establishment clause. here we have a situation where it's the boss getting to impose his religious beliefs on his workers. a women and her family. that's wrong. >> let's -- >> women should be able to exercise the freedom to make the choice. >> let's pause on that. that's a great thought. the religious freedom part is something that appeals to people on paper. for the reasons you just mentioned, though, it makes no sense here because if you say, well, what do i get to do with my own health care or my prayer or my choice not to pray, all of t...