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Those go under religious freedom but what it seems like here as you're arguing you can go to court and say we have employers or men saying that it allows them to change the employees' behavior? >> that's why this is unconstitutional and just so wrong. are you surprised? was i surprised today? no. it's a shameful act and women are scared by the actions and continued actions of this administration. but here's why we're going to win. it's -- you can't do that. the basic principles say that we get to exercise religious freedom, of course. and the law and the supreme court recently set this clear i...

Whole country of america on the wrong track? >> well, you know, i've been saying a lot over the last several months that when people compare donald trump to richard nixon, i actually think it's unfair to richard nixon. and the reason i say that is because richard nixon had some degree of seriousness about policy. he even signed bills to go to neera's point of working with democrats, signed a lot of bills that democrats put on the desk like to create the epa. with donald trump, there is nothing like that. there is no seriousness about the job or about policy. he's gone on both sides of da kra w...

Are scared by the actions and continued actions of this administration. but here's why we're going to win. it's -- you can't do that. the basic principles say that we get to exercise religious freedom, of course. and the law and the supreme court recently set this clear in hobby lobby. there are already existing protections of freedom under the law that protect religious institutions and the like. but that's not what this is about. this is about a systematic effort to eviscerate women's access to health care and not only are they offering religious objection, ari, as a reason, they offered a s...

Your premiums are going down. >> beyond obamacare, what else? >> i don't know. that's what comes to mind. my point is this -- he's not the first person to ever mislead the press as a press person for a politician. i think you have valid points and the videos are valid. but we should acknowledge -- >> he's not the first one. it's a matter of degrees. and his first press conference was a flat-out -- >> that was a disaster. >> lie. >> no question, it was a disaster. >> rebecca, you wanted to get in. >> i have to disagree with you here, scott, because there's a difference between spin which you mi...

Obamacare that turned out tot be flat lies. >> did the press secretary go in front of -- politicians may have done it, surrogates might have done it. but did the press secretary get out in front of the american people and actually lie? >> ij you look at some of the statements that the spokespeople said about obamacare, they were on the same side as the president was. you can keep your doctor if you want it. >> beyond obamacare, what else? >> i don't know. that's what comes to mind. my point is this -- he's not the first person to ever mislead the press as a press person for a politician. i thi...