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That's from the "new york times." >> but it's not the campaign doing it. similarly, what happens to have romney get upset about dishonest ads when he's putting out dishonest ads about obama. romney totally misrepresents the president on welfare as recently as yesterday. bill: you are on record. you said it's a critique of -- not a critique of his policies but an attack on romney as a person. why is that significant? >> it's significant because the essential task of the obama campaign is to get voters who don't ordinary vote to vote. and to vote for obama. how do you do that? you do that by sca...

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>> oh, you can't keep dragging republicans into that. >> yes, you can. >> bush has been out of office almost two years. >> mike: both get d's. >> what we've faced in the country-- i'm sorry, star, to interrupt. we have 21% of the people who believe they're being governed with their consent that's how we had a revolution. they believe the government is the enemy now and it's threatening them. it's a direct threat to them. the economy is the worst they've-- i'm a democrat because i believe we're supposed to take care of people who are in trouble and help build jobs and growth in the economy, not...