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Terrorize this school. >> one thing that has changed so much since columbine, it's no longer -- the first officers set up a perimeter around the school, wait for the s.w.a.t. team. the first officers who arrive, whether it's a traffic cop, a bicycle cop, they get together, they go in to get the shooter. i think what a lot of people don't realize is that police departments around the country, and i know for a fact the nypd, every officer is now being trained and has been trained now in how to respond to an active shooter. >> absolutely. when we go back to columbine, it was a different philosoph...

New york has these teams that are on duty at all times and i know all officers in new york and certainly d.c. as well, all officers are trained to respond to active shooters. >> absolutely that's in reaction to columbine. the first responders are there, it's an offduty cop, offduty sheriff's detective, campus police officer. >> in the navy yard, there was a bicycle cop as well -- >> we had these units, we were going wait a minute. this takes a tactical skill set, you need a homogenous team. after columbine, we decided to integrate training. that's what happens now. so active shooter protocols,...