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That on "the view," univision. >> bill: we have gone over that a thousand times. >> this is new today that he -- during the "60 minutes" interview the part that was never aired. it never aired. he did say that it was a terror attack but then he changed his story. the question for me tonight is, why did the story change from the president? >> bill: we don't know. >> here is the problem. have you got daugherty and woods who are on the ground calling for a c 130. these guys are being savaged. they know about it in realtime. they have got a fast team. apache helicopters. we have got them in italy....

>> bill: personal story segment tonight, as you may know, bicycle guy lance armstrong who won seven tour de france titles stripped of them because he was taking performance enhancing drugs during the races. for years armstrong denied that but the evidence against him is now overwhelming. joining us from boston, torres who won 12 olympic medals in swimming and eric mara bemplet ella so, aaron, were you surprised about lance armstrong? >> no, i wasn't. for years i had suspected that he and other athletes were doping, as a clean athlete it was frustrating to watch their super human performances a...

Mentioned where they come find you at any time. >> what do you think, dara, morally about this kind of cheating? because we know it happened in baseball. we know it happened in football. now we know it happened in cycling. what do you think morally about a guy who cheats? lance armstrong last year made 15, 1-$5 million in endorsements. what do you think about that cheating? >> well, first of all, we do have to think about what he has done good, which is for cancer and for live strong. so you think about that and that's great. but, on the other side of it, i'm a huge advocate of clean athletes ...

>> bill: you think armstrong should be prosecuted criminally? >> what i think needs to happen is he needs -- either needs to fight these charges and. >> bill: he gave up -- he is not going to do that. >> exactly. or he knees to apologize. i -- he needs to apologize. everyone wants him to apologize and come clean. >> bill: is that though enough? erin, do you think he should be prosecuted? >> i think more needs to be done. as a clean athlete, it really makes me mad that people cheated because, for years, i knew i wasn't competing on a fair playing field. >> i think it's fraud. it's fraud. >> it ...

>> 16 trillion, that's more zeros than they have hosts on msnbc. do you know what i'm saying? >> bill: ill think i do. >> mitt romney is a guy that i think we can get behind. is he a strong man, is he a good leader. the same on the vice president side of things. >> bill: when, walter, you watch the debate the other day. >> yes. >> bill: and you saw the president not being in command. what did you think? >> i thought to myself, should be sitting on someone's knee. >> bill: that's harsh. >> yeah, i think it's the truth. do you see any similarities between me and joe biden? >> forehead? >> there ...