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The company he was on the board of with him just once. dad said i hope you know what you're doing, and i said i do. bill, cnn has investigated. others have investigated. there's no evidence of any wrongdoing by either bidep. do you think joe biden should be worried this could be worried against him? does it even matter? >> no, that's not a real discussion, and even if it were, it doesn't matter. joe biden is not president of the united states. whatever joe biden and hunter biden did could be investigated, i suppose. it has been investigated by paris authorities incruding the ukrainian governme...

Didn't sit well with in democrats or they focus on president trump or do they focus on ideas moving the country forward that many view as progressive. that's what will be playing out tonight. >> also tonight, it's the first time that joe biden, elizabeth warren will share the stage in one of these debates. how do you think they will interact? >> so far they have been mostly positive on the campaign trail talking about why they should be elected. i'll be looking for is will they go negative. will vice president bide p say you're trying to take private health insurance away from tens of millions...

Indication, sort of a shot across to signify we're prepared for any sort of digital cyber intrusion into our electrical grids and we can take counter measures and response. the president coming out and calling this treasonous is directly contradictory to what the national security council was trying to do and proves this point of why the president was being kept in the dark about all of this. >> i want to talk about the new poll numbers including one that shows the president trailing a handful of democratic candidates. you have the numbers right up there. bide p ahead by ten points. the presid...

Warren's backers are lukewarm towards bide p's possible candidacy. does biden have a natural base? and what he's he going to run on? what's going to differentiate him? >> great point. biden does not have a natural base. he doesn't come from one of the early state likes iowa, hb hn oar south carolina. he comes from delaware which in addition to not being politically strategic for him is not exactly politically important in the long run when it comes to electoral votes. so you have that. i think the problem for joe biden going forward will be finding whatever coalition he needs to win a primary....