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To keep in place all the benefits of obamacare. like president obama himself has said, he used the analogy of it being like a starter home. >> so, it is moving on from obamacare? >> and making improvements on it. >> i want to go back to senator harris on health care in a moment. i want to talk about the biden dynamic. every poll we look at since the first debate, he is down. not just in the horse race numbers but when you look into the weeds who is most impressed, who are you looking at, who are you not going to vote for, his numbers are worse in every poll you look at. why? >> probably a coup...

If he's going to go up against donald trump. >> laura, do you share in the read of the current news coverage that it's the women that are polling very well, but because of the biden dynamic, they're not getting the commensurate attention they should? >> i think it's a lack of name recognition, and some frustration in their camps that because their stories are pretty much already known, they're not treated in the same way that the others have been treated. but they're not changing their strategy, and hoping to emerge as the cycle goes on. >> let's do this again. thanks for joining us, beth and ...

The audience when he announced his candidacy. so, he has a lot of work to do if he's going to go up against donald trump. >> laura, do you share in the read of the current news coverage that it's the women that are polling very well, but because of the biden dynamic, they're not getting the commensurate attention they should? >> i think it's a lack of name recognition, and some frustration in their camps that because their stories are pretty much already known, they're not treated in the same way that the others have been treated. but they're not changing their strategy, and hoping to emerge

Will donald trump know how to come back at this guy? >> and gay, and married to his husband, yet another interesting data point in the collection of things we know about pete buttigieg. the answer is yes. but pete has a lot of work to do before he gets on the stage with donald trump. we see little evidence he has support among african-american voters. even the city that he's mayor of, south bend, indiana, with a large black population, there weren't a lot of black faces in that audience when he announced so he needs to step up and improve his performance in that community in particular if he g...

Should? >> i think the biden dynamic has something to do with that. it's a lack of name recognition and been frustration among harris and booker and warren camp because their stories are pretty much already known they're not treated in the same way that buttigieg or beto o'rourke were treated right at the beginning but we've seen which is from people like warren and harris they're not changing their strategy. they're hoping that by sticking to their game plan, they can emerge as the cycle goes on. >> hey, gang, let's do this again. thanks for joining us, beth fouhy and laura barron-lopez. co...