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>> i think that's what makes taylor a powerful witness. he didn't just see a shakedown. taylor we see in his deposition testimony says he thinks it is wrong. and those are two arguments that the democrats want to make to the american people. >> yeah, he thinks it's wrong on two separate fronts. one is on national security, foreign policy front that giuliani track he came to believe was contrary to u.s. interests in the region. it emboldened russia for various reasons. and then on the second front, he was very clear that he believed the whole burisma/biden issue was political. it was ukraine --...

Dawsy. there seems to be an effort to place distance between the justice department and the whole ukraine controversy here. not just this press conference that didn't happen but also, you know, we don't want to hear about rudy giuliani and anything he's doing. keep that away from us. >> and the contrast between barr's response to the mueller report is dramatic. barr, several times, publicly really not only said that the mueller report exonerated the president, but went beyond the mueller report, really put his own spin on it in a much more favorable way to the president than mueller himself di...

The thing he was worried about. the fact ukraine meddled and not the russians is a debunked theory, but that's in the president's head. mick mulvaney says, let's be clear, there was no quid pro quo. the statement on the right does not match up with the statement on the left. this isn't a tizzy, it's cleanup. >> it's cleanup, and if you look at this press conference, he said this over and over again. there are multiple times when reporters were quizzical where he actually said this, where he said, yes, get over it, this happens all the time in foreign policy. so the idea the reporters are getti...

Ukraine policy through giuliani and it seems, based on mulvaney's comments there was a tie between ukraine aid and investigations going back to 2016. has that changed your view on impeachment? >> no, it's quite concerning and i think we're going to get more information as we're seeing this happen rapidly. it's one thing to say this is where we are at. it's impeachable. we have to get more details of it. with mulvaney, i have no idea why he said what he said. he's walked it back since. was he talking about corruption or specifically about the biden issue. the biden issue was what's very concern...

Exchange for political favors. asked about mulvaney, trump pivoting sharply. >> mr. president do you want to clarify what mick mulvaney said yesterday -- >> i think he clarified it. and i do have to say this, we, yesterday, had a tremendous day in texas. >> delving into a rant and refusing to take any more questions about mick mulvaney's controversial confession. >> to be clear you just described is a quid pro quo. >> it is funding will not flow unless the investigation into the democratic server happened as well? >> we do -- we do that all of the time with foreign policy. >> reporter: mulvane...