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And saying it's a biden plus 30 state, every voter tunes in when they get a ballot laid to them, it lands the election right in their face, in their mailbox. in a state like california, that might help democrats, and the other thing along the lines, everyone, media, people, everyone just started paying attention to the race as it got closer, as the media coverage really picked up, certainly democrats kicked up their efforts. as it got more attention and came into the spotlight, i think people just kind of in general migrated to the political camps they have been migrating to in california and ...

They talk so much about trump, looked at the map, the biden plus 30. they said, hey if we can replicate that or come close, we're going to do fine. they came close to replicating it. >> steve, thanks, to willie's point, joe, what steve is showing us now, this didn't seem as resounding at one point. and it what would you call it, a message for democrats, a wake up call? i mean, there were a few unforced errors or just realities that played against him whether it be the dinner at the fancy restaurant or talk about his kids get to go to private schools while everyone else is in the pandemic, what...

The united states and elsewhere. there are democrats who feel we should be doing more and there are democrats and republicans who feel like he does and we've done everything we possibly could and enough is enough. i everything we possibly could and enough is enough.— everything we possibly could and enough is enough. i was talking to an anal st enough is enough. i was talking to an analyst at _ enough is enough. i was talking to an analyst at that _ enough is enough. i was talking to an analyst at that earlier - enough is enough. i was talking to an analyst at that earlier and - enough is en...

But what's really interesting about this particular moment there are kind of three thins that stick out to me the most. we're starting to see the democratic field really wind el down to 10 candidates on one debate stage, and of those 10, there are three to five that continually draw big crowds, that is continued support, and what's interesting is in the head-to-head matchup between those top five and donald trump, they're all beating him in those national polls. there was a poll last week that came out that showed biden plus 16, sanders plus 14, warren plus 12, harris plus 11, mayor pete plus ...

Being very early. we have biden versus trump. biden plus 10. sanders versus trump, sanders plus 9. harris and interestingly pete buttigieg edging him out as well in a situation where the argument is elect yabltd, this would seem to indicate that perhaps there is no electability to go around than perhaps we assumed. >> absolutely. and that's what i found so interesting. particularly if you talk about former vice president joe biden, his theory of the case so far has been that he is uniquely qualified to take on trump and that trump is kind of an aberration that things would kind of go back to t...