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From a political standpoint what you're saying about the go back is essentially what biden has going for him politically, right? the idea that we're in awful anomalous times with an awful, anomalous president as many democrats find him to be, and we should go back to something that is not that is, i think, steve the core of the biden case and the biden support and the reason that he is leading in the polls even after a bad debate showing last time, and even if he is not in line where the energy idealogically is. >> i think there is an unspoken message with the biden campaign to democrats which...

Something straight. we love it. we are not leaving it. we are here to stay. we're certainly not going to leave it to you. >> that was how joe biden began the night. but he then spent most of the rest of the evening defending his record. senator kamala harris hammering joe biden over health care. julio castro accusing him of living in the past with immigration policy. senator cory booker saying biden support of the 1994 crime bill destroyed communities. with me now her review of the debate communications director for the biden campaign. thanks fork here. >> thanks for having me. >> what's your ...

Things like that. but he certainly has to be prepared to be attacked. but he can't be as listless as he was last time. i think it would be a mistake. if he looks like he thinks he's in the driver's seat and he doesn't have to fight for the nomination, i don't think that's going to work. >> lisa: i don't think it's necessarily about the issues in sticking a specific line of attack. i think it's more about joe biden, making him look unelectable, like he's not ready to be president. that is not prepared to take on president trump. i think that's what did the most damage to an and kamala harris be...

She knew this was going to be a big stage the biggest stage she's had so far. her name id of course isn't where sanders is. not where a biden is. you talked to folks who like biden who are surrounding his cam pap and want to support him. why wasn't he more prepared for this moment? and after the debate he had a couple stumbles. talking about gang bangers and all these kinds of thins in front of the crowd talking about the shift in terms of the way gay americans are seen. he's got to figure out where he goes from here. i think it's clear that harris has him on the ropes a bit. and really starti...

You run. she maybe shouldn't have run in 2016. colin reed wrote about warren saying, warren is enjoying a moment. biden support is softening but he remains the tallest tree. with her open disdain for the former vice president, warren is the best candidate to stop biden down. it prevents her from differentiating from bernie sanders. that's in reference to the debate. look forward for me, lisa. what do you think will happen wednesday and thursday? >> i think if you're elizabeth warren, there's a lot of pressure essentially being the big person on this stage. if you're someone like joe biden, i t...