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We are vigilant and have important programs in place. >> all things lead to -- things that are not in the public, things that have been surveiled secretly can end up being abused. >> people can listen to phone conversations. >> that's why this is a good conversation to have and it's incumbent on the president to defend it. if you take the argument to an extreme, there should be no classified information in the government. the military, cia, there should be no secrets. when the s.e.a.l.e.s go to get bin laden that should be publicly reported when a helicopter takes off. there is a legitimacy to...

>> how many shots approximately, do you know? >> i don't know. maybe -- between four and six. i'm not sure. maybe five. >> how long did you stay on the bus? >> the bus panicked, of course. everyone screaming and crying inside the bus on the floor. the bus driver tried to drive away. you know, when someone panic, you know. after a while, she was able to. she turned right and went, just went as far as she could away from the place. we all screamed. everyone, okay, people calling 911. and like, stop the bus. far enough. stop the bus. there was a lady bleeding in the back. she was sitting in an ar...

Several people along the way. culminating in a running gun fight with police at santa monica college. all of this within a few blocks really of santa monica college here. it's -- santa monica's a long, big area. but this was all in a fairly compact area. in the end, six people, as many as six people dead. the gunman, as well, making seven total dead and several injured. we also understand that at least three people have now been released from the hospital. there are still two in the hospital. anderson? >> extraordinary last several hours. thanks for the update. we'll continue to follow this th...

Department subsequently responded to put that out. we received information at the time of a possible carjacking that may have been related to the shots fired call. and we also were receiving incoming calls regarding a series of random shootings, possibly involving an automatic firearm of some type. that was later found -- told to us to be an ar-15. the random encounter that the suspect had as he moved west along pico boulevard culminated with a se-- a series of shootin. one at 20 and pico, one at cloverfield and pico, then a shooting in the area of 20th and pearl, immediately adjacent to santa...

One of the reasons we have not suffered another 9-11 is because we are vigilant and have important programs in place. >> all things lead to -- things that are not in the public, things that have been surveiled secretly can end up being abused. >> people can listen to phone conversations. >> that's why this is a good conversation to have and it's incumbent on the president to defend it. if you take the argument to an extreme, there should be no classified information in the government. the military, cia, there should be no secrets. when the s.e.a.l.e.s go to get bin laden that should be publicl...