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The state department when it was reviewing its list of possible candidates to be honored. what's your take? >> right. no, there is no doubt whatsoever that ms. ibrahim is remarkably effective activist in pro-democracy proponent in egypt. she was, as you know, laura, subjected to some of these virginity tests that happened. she ended up suing the leadership of the egyptian government and became sort of a star that way. here is the thing we have toker are. in this part of the world you can be anti-dictator and pro-democracy and still hold very reprehensible --ws and be deeply big bigoted and ant...

The state department when it was reviewing its list of possible candidates to be honored. what's your take? >> right. no, there is no doubt whatsoever that ms. ibrahim is remarkably effective activist in pro-democracy proponent in egypt. she was, as you know, laura, subjected to some of these virginity tests that happened. she ended up suing the leadership of the egyptian government and became sort of a star that way. here is the thing we have toker are. in this part of the world you can be anti-dictator and pro-democracy and still hold very reprehensible --ws and be deeply big bigoted and ant...