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This country. maybe beto o'rourke can't talk about it. do it in a way that's high minded and not so ugly as the way that trump does it. >> let's talk about the rest of the field. beto o'rourke is taking up a big chung. i think we have this in cheer. i think this is very hard for cory booker. i think it is bad for amy klobachar. how damaging could he be? >> i think we'll have a reality check for frill 15th, that'll be the first reality check. the debates after that, remember though the finance part of it, $9 million in 2018 or twice as much as a democratic candidate.

Even though she's racist, i don't think we should take everyone's job because they're racist. that would be the entire network. >> do you think the food network overreacted? >> no, i don't think they overreacted. they have a right to say we have a customer base that doesn't like this. i think paula deen will land on her feet. she's very successful, very talented. a big chung will hire her and a big chunk of the nation will believe her or doesn't care. paula deen will be fine. i think the bigger question is how we think about race, who we're willing to call a racist, and what we think constitut...