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Terrible process of government, i'm going to do that. >> it's been widely reported by everyone who was in that meeting that the president put his hand on the table either he slammed it or hit it, walked out and said, bye-bye. is that an effective way to negotiate an end to this? >> no. and i also don't think, though, if it's true that, you know, the president said, hey, if i reopen government will you talk about a wall and she's goeg goes absolutely not, that's not an effective way either. and i think we have to be fair on this, which is the president has never said that he will not dreamers o...

Current emergencies. most of them not -- not controversial at all, but, you know, they indicate the breadth of the president's power here. and, you know, at least in the short-term i think if president trump wanted to do this, the courts would let him. >> and apparently it is $2.5 billion lying around at the pent been to that's unassigned to anything. so here's how cnn reports how he could do it with the money. defense department officials tell cnn that the pentagon is planning a figure of 2.5 billion in funds. they believe they can tap to support construction of a border wall if trump declare...

Barrier, she's among the majority in this democratic region of a red state. but up river from mcallen, roberto supports not only building trump's wall, but letting it cut through his 600 acre ranch. >> in my opinion, nothing has changed. other than him, and i'm talking about the president, not being able to find a way to get it done. >> reporter: for him, a trump support, he it's about securing the rugged south texas ranch land that's been in his family since 1767. he says he's seen the influx of people and drugs crossing the border illegally first hand. >> one night two men, two armed men sto...

Shifting it from certain programs and putting it toward the wall. jeffrey toobin, is that legal? >> i think it probably is. i think it is unlikely to be stopped by the courts, let's put it that way. >> ultimately? >> ultimately, for a couple of reasons. one is that the president's emergency powers are phrased in a very broadway. and second, as a purely legal matter, it is -- it is hard for me to imagine the courts finding a plaintiff withstanding, that say plaintiff with the legal right to sue to stop this at any, you know, at any early point in the process. you know, the president's emergency...

No, definitely not. i mean, and i don't see that happening anytime soon. >> because we had heard that there were a group of republicans. >> yes. >> who are quite uncomfortable with the government shutdown and that they have had a confab behind closed doors and they're trying to anything out something palatable to democrats. >> they. lindsey graham and several other republicans met yesterday with jared kushner and they're trying to figure out a way out. some democrats, i think, are involves tangentially. but here's the problem. if they come up with, my understanding is let's say it's $3 billion...